Author Topic: Which All Condition Ski would You Buy?  (Read 2036 times)

jim-ratliff

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Re: Which All Condition Ski would You Buy?
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2006, 01:14:56 pm »
OK, where do I start on this?

- throw your body across the fall line, I can never explain the technical aspects very well but I think Gary has it about 90%, When coming out of the turn you basically unweight the uphill foot (unweight not lift) and move your body to the inside of the turn, almost like jumping across the fall line, the weight of you r body will tip you over very quickly, the skis must follow quickly or your finished!? I don't pick a line in mashed potato conditions, just keep the ski on edge and rock on. There is no need to absorb the bump or pick a spot to flatten, You can smear it to burn speed but for the most part, just keep them rocked on edge.

OK, good explanation.? I assumed that you and Gary weren't that far apart.
 
"unweight the uphill foot" I think you mean the downhill foot, the one that has been on the outside in the turn just completed.? Gary would agree with this, including the part about unweight, not lift.? HH just teaches the lift part as a visual cue, if you have it lifted then you aren't fooling yourself about whether or not you have it unweighted.? The need for that cue goes away quickly.

"the weight of you r body will tip you over very quickly"? I agree with this whole heartedly.? What I am keying on is the "jumping across the fallline" because it envisions an active act (jumping) rather than a passive act (falling).? The push off of the stem christie is an active act, as is the up and down unweighting that you commonly see.

I would have to admit that I have little awareness of when the skis are flat (HH training says I should).? I know that they are flat somewhere in the transition, but if I relax the leg and tip the ski, then for me it is a continuum as my weight falls across the ski.? I don't relax to get flat and then tip to get edged.? In fact, I believe some of the lower level HH books implied that you flattened the skis and allowed them to begin to drift down the hill before tipping into the next turn.? Later progression emphasize tipping to the new edge much higher in the turn with lessened emphasis (I believe, that's the reason I asked JBotti/Gary to jump in) on the float/flat.? I agree that being on edge allows you to slice through slush rather than floating over it (if you skis are stiff enough).? This was one of the real weak points of the iC160's, their tendency to be deflected by a pile of slushy snow even if they were on edge (the other side of that softness, of course, is it allowed them to be more of an all-mountain ski than just a groomer).

Thanks for the expansion of the explanation.
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