realskiers

JDM and I had conversations about our inability to use traditional PMTS movements in difficult terrain, and, reverting to rotary movements to get the job done. For sure, there is a gap between my vision of how I would like to ski and what I see on my video. In any case, selective comparisons of skiing technique is difficult.

You need rotary to be able ski the terrain I like to ski, with out  it CANT be done, you need controled precise rotary

To speak to your point about an "aft transition leading to being very much in the front of your boot before the fall line" as an effective Off Piste movement, while I'm uncertain of your specific definition of an "aft transition", in PMTS, flexing to release the edges does result in an aft position and then recentering and High C carving does require getting very much into the front of the boot. Are we actually talking a common movement? 

we are talking about the same thing

You have shared many videos of skiing with your friends. Some "keep up" far better than others, some display technique that is not very flattering, some just plain rip and I envy them.  My thinking is that most skiers would like to be recognized for what they ski rather than how well they ski it. This speaks to John Botti?s point of rockered skis make skiing difficult terrain easier. Why bother with technique when you can just go do it?

To each, his or her own, but technique is a dying value in modern skiing.

technique isnt dying its just adapting to what new stuff can let you do. Just because pivoting didnt work on short carvers doesnt mean it doesnt work on the skis I am skiing on or that is a 'bad" thing to have. Like I have said to never practice tight pivot style turns is to have a part of your skiing missing.  Also I would challenge what is 'good technique" if your "good technique" doesnt let you ski everywhere IMO there is nothing good about it. Where as my 'crappy" pivot technique lets me ski more places. Do you see how the arguement against pivoting is a pretty lame one.

Also just because you can pivot rockered ski easier I would also argue that in soft snow you can carve them better as well. More option and more turns are always a good thing when testing the limits of skiing.

Dude....I see where the name bushwacka came from....great skiing through that bramble....way to tight for my liking....but nicely done...you're very quick in there...sweet skills to have. Love the way your skis are working together and great work with the poles too.

I know the pitch is hard to appreciate but from the rate of turn of your skis....you're moving pretty good. 

Great thoughts on skiing the rockered skis...same message I've been saying using my rockered Rossi S3's at 98 underfoot.
In my opinion, they're as stable as many GS skis....respond extremely well to lateral pressure, are stable, easy to get on edge angle and very versatile. They don't like finsihing any turn on the tail cause their ain't none their to support ya....but skiing them centered...tip and turn....they are amazing and fun. Although you won't find me in tight trees like that, I love the ability of the S3's to slither down tight lines of my choice be it on a steep crud run or along the edges of a blue run where there is broken snow, bumps and off camber stuff to play in....a great place the sideslip, pivot, brushcarves come into play. Having said this about the Rossi S3's....I had a pair of Armada JJ's that were the pits for me...they worked better flat with light tipping of flat and swiveling in the trees then me trying to get them up on high edge....like anything else....gotta find what works.

B, even if many don't enter the terrain you have mastered, the benefits of the new gear to make taming the crud and pow with judicious application of float, drift, pivot, turns...is oh such a beautiful thing.

Man B...freakn' awesome skiing in the woods!

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thanks dude. the nice thing about these video is unlike posting on a internet forum they cant be easily replicated. You have to be able to ski it to video it.  Its also a good arguement for rotary. Also the I have found the tighter the trees the more untracked snow I can ski.

Your JJs are not the best outside of snow that wont you hit bottom on. You should try the Sickle from Rossi,  Wrenagade from On3p, or Cochise from BLizzard if you want something bigger that still skis conventionally for the most part.  I could own the JJ but it would be a untracked or slightly tracked snow only ski.