Message #16022

[Liam]

BUshwhacker,

Glad you joined in on this conversation.  Are you in yellow in that video? Who is skiing on the Icelantic Nomads?  That's what I use as my Powder ski (the 181 SFT-same edition as in the video)-which aren't rockered and have 20m turn radius...Just saying, who ever was on them kept pace with you on the Thugs enough to keep you in the video.

Aside from that-I like that video and I think it's instructive...Exper t East coast powder tree skiing benefits from skis that do more than merely respond well to tipping.  You're the missing voice in this conversation.

JBotti,  I am sorry If I have been reading your comments wrong.  My impression was (is) that

1. You feel rockered skis, early rise designs only benefit the extreme edge of big mountain free skiing and low level intermediates who twist every turn.

2. You also imply that Strong intermediates, aspiring experts and actual experts will not progress in their skiing, and in fact see their skills deteriorate (ala the reference to the skiers in the aforementioned K2 video) due to using these sort of skis.

3. That the growing prevalence of such designs is not based on efficacious enhancements of the general public's ski experience, but on  marketing that preys upon the average skier's delusional aspirations to ski like ski **** stars (I believe you referenced Sage Cattabriga), when they ought to be pursuing a far more attainable, carving technical vision of expert skiing, like Harald (In fact, I think that is exactly how you concluded one post).

If I am wrong on any of these assumptions, I apologize, and please tell me and tell me how that's misreading your positions.  If these are your (and Max's I ought to add) positions...well, I strenuously disagree with components of each one. 

And, I will continue to strenuously disagree when such positions are posted on this forum.  Consider me the loyal opposition if you will.  And it's not personal, I, Like everyone who posts on this smaller, focused, intelligent forum am passionate about skiing and I enjoy the give and take discussions AND arguments surrounding the direction of ski technology and technique.

Liam