realskiers

Liam:

Remain the "loyal opposition" --- but the word opposition still implies that this is a PMTS centric forum and I would hope that Liam and Bushwacka and Gary and John and Max are all equal --- in the sense that they are free to explain how and why they enjoy skiing and particular skis without being criticized or judged.

Regarding your three points, I think all of John's (and Max's) statements have been in the context of "FOR SKIERS THAT HAVE ALREADY DECIDED TO FOLLOW THE PMTS APPROACH" and that John has included that as his baseline.

But it's also clear from the examples of your friends, the guys at Snowbird that Peter Keelty referenced (someone posted about that somewhere earlier), as well as the people that Bushwacka skis with, there are some rippin skiers that may have never heard of PMTS and have a dramatically different approach to how to do it, and we all know that PMTS still represents only a small segment of the skiers at most ski resorts.

But also, remember that this thread was originally about skis that Harb Ski Systems recommended and why, so John and Max's points have been pretty consistent and on-topic.