Author Topic: Knees Hurt on Wider skis in Powder??  (Read 1542 times)

bushwacka

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Re: Knees Hurt on Wider skis in Powder??
« on: December 03, 2011, 07:44:11 am »
I like to turn like this













it makes me smile



I like snappy high G force turns everywhere. I do not like when the ski dictates them to me though. skis like the Shamans frustrate me because of how unpredictable they are in mixed conditions and also how smearable there are when you need to do that. Angles can be had in powder and the feeling of using the skis bases to generate G-force is a damn cool one for me.



First me knees do not hurt in powder on wider skis. They hurt on hard surfaces on fat skis though.

Ideal can have alot of meaning. Truly the ideal powder ski for anyone is a a reverse sidecut, reverse camber ski.

With that said I do not own a pair because they are scary on anything that is not 3d snow.

For me my ideal powder ski for Stowe is 185cm -190 cm long, around 20-25 meter sidecut, 110-115 under foot which means roughly a 140-145 tip and 130- 135 tail to get to that sidecut. Slightly low rise rocker along the entire ski. Just stiff enough underfoot to GS turn on everything but true ice, soft tip and and tail to be playful.

Ill explain each aspect even though with skis they are come together.

110mm underfoot is a very tolerable width for me on hard pack, with at least 185cm in length its is going to float me on almost all sketchy snow conditions. The length need to be long enough to platform on fresh snow and to be stable. The bigger platform actually allows the skis to turn quicker at speed since there is more surface area to redirect me.

the sidecut of 20-25 meters lets me GS turns the groomer sections easy enough while not being catchy where I am really skiing

Long and low rise rocker because it make the ski surf with out being a buzzkill on hardpack.

skis that I have loved skiing here

186cm Rossi Sickle (which I now own and fits everything I said)
185cm Nordica Patron
180 and 190cm Icelandtic Gypsies
183cm Atomic Blog and Bentchentler
190cm DPS RP112

skis that I have liked

181cm Nomad SFT - would love to try it with long and low rise
183cm Katana(owned) and the 190cm - to heavy and damp for my taste otheriwse nearly perfect
186cm rockered Gotama - its edge hold on hardpack sucked but was super fun in the woods
188cm Rossi S7 - could still see this having a spot in my quiver since it deal with manky snow better than anything else I have tried sucks on hardpack
183cm Non rockered Gotama - kinda of straight side cut kinda of chore like in bumps
192cm Atomic Thugs(still own) - these are my go to bluebird powder day skis out west. With a 40 meter sidecut they are not catchy at all and live for speed. With that said the 40 meter sidecut lack of rocker and 120mm limit their usefull in the east.
185cm Blizzard Cochise - alittle to stiff for my use at stowe also lacks a twin tip, great western everyday ski, still want to own.