realskiers

As I mentioned in my previous post, the whole turn radius thing is really only a suggestion as to what a given ski can actually do.  Eg: I own a pair of 88mm skis, somewhat stiff in flex and on the heavy side, but with a 23m turn radius, no rocker.  With the right technique, I can flick them around in short snappy turns without blinking.  Similarly, a couple of years ago I spent a few hours on the Head SS Magnum at 13m TR, and found they didn't behave much different than my Head SS Speeds that I owned at the time, which had a 16m TR.  In my mind, the TR numbers meant nothing.  As we always say, this often depends more on the skier than the skis.

Svend,

As Max frequently asks "got video". Can't agree with your thinking on this one unless the natural turnshape is skidded. I do exercises all the time with friends where we try to stay in each other's carve track. My Supershapes cannot match the long radius made by a GS ski and they cannot turn within my radius. The skill of the individual skier rules and someone like Max or John Botti or Helluva or Bush can bend into tighter, but, the common man....no.

I would agree that the difference between the Magnum and Speed is not great, but, I know the Magnum is not equal to a basic Supershape with respect to tight turn radius.