But to be clear, lee is NOT describing counter balancing (leaning your upper body away from the direction of the bike lean) as was advocated at the start of this thread nor is he echoing the very bad advice given earlier in this thread to 'try to lean the bike without moving or leaning your upper body'.
Liam:
Assuming your quote above is what I said, then I would like to correct myself. What I do is pretty much what Lee is describing for his third option, i.e. "leaning the bike more than the body." This works well for me at the speeds that I ride.
And, to quote him:
The safest default is leaning your bike more than your body. You can never go wrong with that, for these three reasons:
My bolding in the quote, because "safest" works for me.
If I said leaning "away" from the bike, what I was visualizing was leaning less than the bike and didn't phrase it well. I do, at even lower speeds, lean the bike with almost no leaning of the upper body, and that works for me as well. In my mind, that is just a degenerative case of the above -- I'm leaning the bike when my speed is so low that I don't need to lean for balance.
"Teasing gravity and momentum into a stalemate" is an excellent description, but at my speeds I often need more edge (bike lean) and have very little momentum to offset gravity, so shift mass accordingly.
And I understand that there is a big difference in our riding levels and our riding speeds.
To me, this is exactly like counter balancing in skiing. You tip your skis by "leaning" your legs more while maintaining balance with a "less leaned" upper body. (I know PMTS'ers, bad terminology).
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