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Perry

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Great snow, bad knee
« on: February 26, 2013, 02:21:04 pm »
My 57th birthday on Sunday was a wonderful powder day.  GREAT snow but after only 2 hours my right knee was very reactive and painful.  (good practice for left footed skiing but otherwise very discouraging)  On the positive side it made me realize that I will have to actually see a doctor about it....so I saw one today and my xrays look pretty good, but the pain makes us think that my meniscus (cartilage) is probably messed up.  So it looks like I have an MRI and possible arthroscopy in my future.  I did get some depomedrol in it so hoping it will help a little with the 3 days of skiing left. 

Rev 85 so far so good but can't say I have really been able to find their limits.

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Re: Great snow, bad knee
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 02:44:03 pm »
Perry,

Bummer about the knee. Was this a surprise or did you have some prior warnings. How many days did you get to ski pain free?

How did the cross border shipping of your skis go? Any US customs duties imposed? Still considering getting the Rev 85's, can't make up my mind.

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Re: Great snow, bad knee
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 03:36:17 pm »
Happy 57th ya old fart...sorry to hear about the knee pain and.....sucks...
Where are you at..... Steamboat..?.skiing powder oh my...how nice is that.

Alice said maybe too much gluten in the powder....? she remembers!!!!

AND THE KNEE....Get er fixed ya beast....lots of more great ski days ahead....sooner than later if I may add!

Mike...buy from Canada...they like us up there...no problem eh....!!!

Perry...We're not letting you get away with such a weenie little review on the Rev's,
COme on mister...

At speed,
in the crud,
pow depth,
carving
edge to edge quickness
float,
bumps...not with that knee..u get a by on this one!

Feed me Dr...what's the scoop?

G
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Re: Great snow, bad knee
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2013, 03:50:55 pm »
Perry:
Sorry to hear that the prior knee pain is more real. Any chance that some kind of brace would add enough support to let you finish vacation.
Btw, be careful what doctor you pick. I hear that not all of them graduated with straight A's.

When I was needing back surgery my method of picking a surgeon was asking doctors who they would use. It worked well; I eventually got three answers and they were all for the same guy. Doctors always know who the good doctors and not so good doctors are -- if you can find a way of getting them to say so.

BTW, as you know, Steadman Hawkins is just a couple of hours down the road. You might get the same OR that Kobe was in.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2013, 03:58:17 pm by jim-ratliff »
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Re: Great snow, bad knee
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 08:57:45 am »
Perry, sure hope it's not the meniscus.  Damn painful, that is.  That happened to my wife -- tore the meniscus, and a piece of it folded up upon itself inside the joint.  Most unpleasant.  Take it easy out there, bud.


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Re: Great snow, bad knee
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 09:31:46 pm »
Perry:
Sorry to hear that the prior knee pain is more real. Any chance that some kind of brace would add enough support to let you finish vacation.
Btw, be careful what doctor you pick. I hear that not all of them graduated with straight A's.

When I was needing back surgery my method of picking a surgeon was asking doctors who they would use. It worked well; I eventually got three answers and they were all for the same guy. Doctors always know who the good doctors and not so good doctors are -- if you can find a way of getting them to say so.

BTW, as you know, Steadman Hawkins is just a couple of hours down the road. You might get the same OR that Kobe was in.
Jim,
your method for picking MD's is spot on.  I have an orthopedist at home I will see.  Not my favorite person but he is a wizard with an arthroscope. I injured that knee in 73 playing football.  It swelled as big as a cantaloupe and I missed a game and it really didn't get right the rest of the season.  Dr Sisk said that is likely why that knee hurts and the other doesn't.  I have heard many patients talk about the old sports injury but I have never been sure just how credible/science based that was.  I may have some irregularities/erosions on the meniscus or just a bunch of junk - looks like shag carpet of fibrous stuff.  They have a shaver/vacuum and can clean it up.   

Thanks all for the care and concern.  LP - I did have some signs for about 3 years now.  It would act up a only after fairly strenuous exercise, like a 3 hour bike ride but lately has been giving more problems going up and down stairs after only a hard 1 hour bike workout.  I have been an Egyptian (living by da Nile).  So again, the good news is that now I know that it is worth pursuing more aggressively.

Skied today and really didn't have much pain......WOW!!!!!!!! (the patient's I inject are always some of my most grateful, now I know why)

Gary -
Rev 85 short review 184cm mounted 1cm forward (86mm under foot at this length)
6'2" 200lb usually fairly good skier but have been tentative, which for me doesn't go well with this sport.
I moved my bindings back and forth and for me the 1cm forward works the best.

Overall - a very versatile ski.  I does everything well except for powder more than 12-14 inches.  I skied them up to just above the knee - a wider board would have been more on top. 
Groomers - very predictable, nice even flex, soft tip.  The early rise is very slight and I didn't notice it at all.  No tip flap, no sudden engagement when the rocker tip engages.  I was not skiing them that fast or trying to lay them way over due to the knee.  But I did ski a series of turns PMTS style, pulling up my free foot after the top of the turn to get bigger angles and they started digging trenches and laid over very predictably.  Even gave a little rebound when pressured this way.  Now - these were soft groomers, hero snow so east coast skiers will need to consider accordingly.
Bumps - didn't do a lot but these made me better on the first run.  For me, the best bump ski I have ever been on.
Crud - really fun. On the runs with pushed up piles I was just plowing through, carving around.  Toward the end of the day today I started just lightening my stance/inside foot and they would come around nicely, very predictable, nice round turns in 8 -10 inches of crud. Very fun.
Stability - jury's out since I am out of shape and hurting.  I have not felt any need to slow down so far but probably have not had them over 30 - 35 MPH.
Edge to edge - Not quick or slow - I wasn't impressed nor was I disappointed.  About what you would expect for an 86mm ski.



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Re: Great snow, bad knee
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2013, 08:13:48 am »
Hey Perry, glad you got back out and had a no pain day......luvin the cocktail eh!
Get er done P.....no worries....

Glad to hear you found the sweet spot on the 85. Understanding the feedback and input fore and aft is so important me thinks!
eeek...you tentative. :o??  Ok...I understand given the knee conditions...But I will say loud and clear, Perry is more than a fairly good skier and he craves speed!

Nice review Perry...it sounds like the perfect All Mountain Tool for your skiing! Sounds very versatile.

It also sounds like a ski that anyone intermediate to advanced could truly enjoy!

Best, G


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Re: Great snow, bad knee
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 03:43:52 pm »
Gary,
Thanks for the endorsement of my skiing.  It means more coming from you than from me.  Anyone can post they are a level 11 skier but who knows.  I also see so many skiers that are just so good.  Love to watch and learn from them.

Mostly groomer day today and the Rev 85 gave me what I wanted and more.  A very good groomer ski...fun to be on.  Not a Head SS but all skis are like bikes, a compromise. I have never been on a better ski for groomers than the SS.

Also today did a black bump run and never stopped due to control issues, just fatigue.  This ski turns best for me when I lighten the inside foot and with flexing.  My problem in the past is I would panic and lift the inside ski and loose speed control.  I had been on groomers all day using the above technique and when on the bumps at the end of the day, made myself stick with it.  A BIG difference in bumps for me.

Also, snow feel is very good. I can feel the transition at the top of the turn and re-centering on the inside edge.

APRES beer review - Left hand NITRO milk stout - the marketing for this should be.........so smooth it is dangerous, drink with caution!

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Re: Great snow, bad knee
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 01:40:18 pm »
Hey P...sounds like a great day and also sounds like you got your feet working really well. Foot feel or awareness is truly key I think for great skiing. AND a little mix and match of ski technique as well....sweet!

A ski that rocks on groom and bumps for ya...nice get!

Nitro milk stout...hmmmm...I'll have a sippy cup please!

G

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Re: Great snow, bad knee
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2013, 04:47:25 pm »
Additional beer reviews - Colorado has a bunch of really good micro brews.  Colorado native lager excellent and some others I can't remember the name of. (I limit to 2 pints a session so no, it isn't because of that!)
If in Steamboat the Rusted porch has a great selection of food and micro's on tap.