Hey we all want it to be fun here, but a little reality check is a good thing as well. Max is a blue level intsructor in PMTS and both of us have seen many people that think they are using PMTS movements when in reality they aren't very close. I know how many hours of drill work it has taken me to ski correct PMTS movements even on blue groomers. Whatever I have done Max has done 2X in drill time that I have done. I can also tell you every time I ski a section of slope where I start twisting the skis to get them to turn, I set myself back from the progress I am trying to make initiating all turns with tipping movements. So yes it is possible that someone can mix and match the two movements, but whoever that is would be the the first. To ski PMTS correctly takes a singular focus to always tip first to initiate every turn. Most people that don't work with trained PMTS coaches are usually tipping around 20-30% of what is required to ski well and correctly.
Now I know it's a flawed system (BW no need to remind me) but it is the one I have chosen to pursue. But the idea that someone can read the books and watch the videos and practice a little and incorporate some of the better conceopts from PMTS into their skiing sounds great, it just isn't reality. It takes everyone some serious drill time usually with a coach who will amke sure that you are doing the drills correctly. Max and I back that up with years of watching people say they do this and then when we see them ski, they think they are tipping but aren't or are hardly and they think they are flexing but aren't very much and so on.
There are just too many movements that are incompatible with quality PMTS skiing and the bulk either come naturally or are taught in traditional ski instruction. Either you work drills non stop to rid yourself of these movements or you have them as part of your skiing. There really is no mixing and matching.
Let me also state that none of this is a value judgement. You can a be a solid skiier using non PMTS movements. Just don't tell us that it's PMTS skiing.
Aye Ya Yi! Did this really required this much exposition?!? It's like talking to religious fundamentalists. I have never claimed to be a PMTS skier, or aspire to be. I have also never called it 'flawed.'. Never. I like Harald's stuff, some of it helped my skiing, so much so I've shared it with other aspiring expert skiers (like my buddy Beastie Boy!). But I like other things I've learned and put into practice as well. I neither know nor care if the movements I use, or that anyone uses will pass the muster with PMTS cyber-Sanhedrin.
Sorry, but any skier can take what they need from any instructor, including Harb, and work it into their skiing. They'll make the judgement call over what works for them and what doesn't. And, then, if they're smart, they'll move on.
Beastie Boy--I'm sorry I dragged you into this hornet's nest. I know you'll find this amusingly weird: But there are people out there who will fight tooth and claw across cyber-space over the nuances of ski technique. Seriously, the above allusion is fairly accurate, there is an almost religious zealotry to these endless debates over ski technique. You'd think Harb was actually involved in doing something important or meaningful, and not just peddling ski lessons.
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