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[midwif]

Personal opinions are wonderful things. And as long as not directed at anyone in an injudicious manner, always welcome.

[Ron]

yes, agreed..... 

[jbotti]

Ah, Harald Harb a sensitive subject. OK. Everyone knows I am a fan, that he has been my teacher pretty much since I started skiing 6 years ago and he is a close personal friend. I think everyone also knows that I am not here to tell anyone else how to ski, to convert them to PMTS or to argue ski technique theory or engage in any way in the ongoing war that has raged for years. The reason that I brought up Harald is because JIm has been to a camp and in years past he has talked some about reading his books and has for the most part tried to learn some from what Harald has written.? ?

[Philpug]

Ah, Harald Harb a sensitive subject. OK. Everyone knows I am a fan, that he has been my teacher pretty much since I started skiing 6 years ago and he is a close personal friend. I think everyone also knows that I am not here to tell anyone else how to ski, to convert them to PMTS or to argue ski technique theory or engage in any way in the ongoing war that has raged for years. The reason that I brought up Harald is because JIm has been to a camp and in years past he has talked some about reading his books and has for the most part tried to learn some from what Harald has written.? ?

[Side bar] Not to be smart or "injudicious", but contrary to what Harald says, there is a whole world of skiing out there that he has no effect on. People were skiing long before he came around and will be skiing long after and quite frankly, doing it quite well. PErsonally, I have offered to take one of his classes, I just haven't been able to get with on of the few instructors in VT to do it. If PMTS worked for you, power to you, I am very happy for you, as I am for "Living proof", but nothing works well without effort and commitment. If someone puts the effort and commitment into ANY teaching system with all the camps, they will be successful. Such as with the thread drift into boot fitting, I am all for meeting people at THEIR needs, not trying to mold them into my perception. I see that being done in some of these TM's and I don't think that is the way to teach. There is more than one way to ski well and skiing is art, not science. [/side bar]

[jim-ratliff]

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Harald's books and methods worked for me.? Well, those that have seen me ski might say that nothing has worked for me, but I can venture around much more of the mountain, I enjoy myself much more than I used to, and I very seldom fall down in the lift line any more.? At a point when my son told me "Dad, you may just have to accept the fact that, at your age, you aren't going to get any better" I decided that I did want to invest a little bit and get better.? I purchased Lito Tejada-Flores videos on "Breakthrough on the New Skis" and they helped.? But Harald's first two books helped a lot more, and I actually believe it is more his writing method or breakdown approach rather than the content.? His writing helped me understand what was going on in his approach as well as the foundation of what others had been trying to get me to do.? It all made sense in my head, which I believe is how I learn.? Others learn differently.

As far as the other sidebar on bow-legged and knock-kneed skiers, John correctly understood that I was regurgitating from my memory of the ABC books and I understood what he meant when he said he was using Harald as the expert (that JBotti wasn't an expert).
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Phil, I kind of like your approach of making up our own HTML tags.

[Philpug]

Jim,

I think it is fantastic that you found something that works for you. If I had trouble standing in lift lines, I might convert j/k.  If the system is something you believe in fantastic. I DO think there are many options out there and, I am not saying this is you or anyone here, but many times it is when the student is ready, the teacher appears. I can understand that people have had fustration with other 4 letter TM that start with a P and and in an A, I have myself. But I do think it is unfair to blame the poor skiers out there on that method (which is happening). There are poor skiers out there because they are unwilling to learn. These people might ski 5-10 days a year and do not want to commit any of that valuable time in "lessons", although they fail to realize that it would enhance their experience, this is not the fault of PSIA.

[jim-ratliff]

Phil:

I agree a lot with that.? It's sort of like my grandmother's saying about you always find things in the last place you look.? DUH, it's true.? The fact that I had made a decision to invest some time and energy probably says a lot about the likelihood of success.? And, for me, PMTS was a succint progression that I could comprehend. 

Prior to that point, I had taken a few lessons "here and there" but that wasn't part of any real attempt to get better, just looking for a silver bullet.? The likelihood of success when that was my mindset wasn't very great no matter what teaching method.

Jim

Also, an underrated aspect is that I think having the books to read (and review) was a more effective approach for me than lessons.  I've never done well with the "demonstration method of teaching", the "do this" approach in any activity.  I can learn now from Gary when he says "try this" but it wasn't effective back then.

[Philpug]

Phil:

I agree a lot with that.? It's sort of like my grandmother's saying about you always find things in the last place you look.? DUH, it's true.? The fact that I had made a decision to invest some time and energy probably says a lot about the likelihood of success.? And, for me, PMTS was a succint progression that I could comprehend.?

Prior to that point, I had taken a few lessons "here and there" but that wasn't part of any real attempt to get better, just looking for a silver bullet.? The likelihood of success when that was my mindset wasn't very great no matter what teaching method.

Jim

Also, an underrated aspect is that I think having the books to read (and review) was a more effective approach for me than lessons.? I've never done well with the "demonstration method of teaching", the "do this" approach in any activity.? I can learn now from Gary when he says "try this" but it wasn't effective back then.

I liken the PMTS people to Mac Computer users. They are like die in the wool Mac zealots and their superiority complex to viewing PC users. Mac programming is straight forward and simple, Windows based programing is all over with many interpretations in how Windows is programmed and interpreted. Viva Le Mac!

Oh, everything I find is in the second to last place I look. I look one more place...juuuust to make sure.

[Ron]

and, in case you were wondering, its a compliment!

[kwilliams]

The Rival RX's are probably four years old.  I bought them in '03, and didn't actually use them until '04 since my old XWave 9's were still working very well (and in fact performed much better than the Rivals did, which is why I stayed in them.)  So, I basically time-shifted the Rivals into the later half of this decade.  Maybe Santa wants to stick boots under the tree this year.

I'm a bit knock-kneed and even have some early-onset arthritis under my kneecap to prove it!  I've always had to have the outsides of my boots stretched to alleviate pressure on the outside of my foot. I wonder if I've basically achieved a faux abducted position.  Time to head to the boot fitters to see what they think.

Anyone know if Nordica makes a decent high-volume boot that still has a bit of performance to it?  I REALLY liked the performance of the XWave 9.  It was perfect for free-ride, powder, and cruising.  Not stiff enough for racing, but I don't do that stuff anyway.

[Ron]

the beast boot is a good match. I tihink it's also called a top fuel boot?

[Glenn]

Anyone know if Nordica makes a decent high-volume boot that still has a bit of performance to it?? I REALLY liked the performance of the XWave 9.? It was perfect for free-ride, powder, and cruising.? Not stiff enough for racing, but I don't do that stuff anyway.

I'm not sure on the fit...but the Nordica Blower would probably fit the bill: http://www.sierraskis.com/2008-Nordica-Blower-Ski-Boot-39648.asp

[Ron]

Glenn, that's a 98mm boot! This guy has the foot of Yetti!

[Glenn]

LOL! ooops! 

[Ron]

Hey Glenn, I was drinking D&D this week!