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PM Gear Lhasa Pow 186
« on: February 19, 2009, 09:08:41 pm »
Some of you may remember that i made an impulse purchase with these skis which I ordered in November. I had read a lot of reviews on rockered skis with traditional sidecut and I was looking for a powder specific ski that was much more user friendly on hard snow than a Reverse/Reverse ski like my DP Lotus 138's. The Lhasa Pow seemed to be the one that sounded best to me based on the reviews.

Well I finally got these things out in 2 awesome powder days in Montana on Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday there was 10-12 inches of fresh and we had the same on Wednesday. On the ridge where snow blew into the bowl it was 2-3 feet deep in spots. In a word these skis rock!! This is the best powder ski that I have been on and I like them better than the Lotus 138's (reverse/reverse) because they are much more like regular skis. Float is exceptional, tip dive is non existent. You can pretty much take on any turn shape you wish in? soft snow from GS turns at speed to powder 8 turns to borderline straightlining with slight turns. I was able to rip faster and more aggressively than on any other soft snow ski I have been on (maybe the lotus 138's are similar in ability to be aggressive, but I don't love the width under foot at 138mm). At 112 underfoot these seemed just perfect.

If these things were an absolute blast in powder, they really shined as well in crud and bumps with fresh snow. I have never been able to ski so aggressively through this stuff. I really did feel like superman. As well, because of the tip rocker you can stay way forward on them through everything and this means virtually no quad burn!!! I was shot after two days of skiing on these but it was because of how aggressively I skied and how many laps I skied. You will ski fast and hard on these skis!!

In the trees these things were awesome as well, and they are some of the easiest skis for tree skiing that I have been on.

As for groomed terrain, they are more than acceptable. To carve them you need to stay way forward on the ski (where you are supposed to be anyway). The sweet spot is not huge and I was not dynamically carving tight arcs, but they act nicely on hard snow and they are quite comfortable to carve gs arcs at speed (not even close to possible on reverse/reverse skis which are borderline dangerous on hard snow at speed!!)

On Tuesday afternoon I switched into my Mojo 94's for two runs on the ridge. After skiing the Lhasa Pows, the Mojo's were just too soft. I had to really dial it down. They skied fine and they were fun but I really missed the firmness of the Lhasa's. What is amazing about them is that they are a reasonably stiff ski that is easy to maneuver. This is very hard to find. Generally stiff skis like to go straight and these are like butter to turn.

I would still call this a very powder specific ski and for those that want a great powder ski that will carve like a race ski, I don't think it has arrived yet. Still, on big snow days, this ski will not disappoint the whole day even when it is totally cut up and bumped out. I highly reccomend these!!!

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Re: PM Gear Lhasa Pow 186
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2009, 06:59:37 am »
I skied some prototypes of these last year in SnowBasin when I was there with Splat. Although the conditions weren't completely conducive for the ski, they were real nice. Since then, i did get some (10/20) rockers for myself, would be interesting to do a comparision.

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Re: PM Gear Lhasa Pow 186
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2009, 06:19:41 pm »
What are 10/20 rockers? Does that mean the amount of tip and tail rocker? A guy I know in Montana has the Armada JJ and I should get a spin on them sometime soon. I have fondled the Rossi S7, and they are pretty soft, but I woul still like to try them.

Maybe we will get lucky on your trip to MT in that I iwll be here and we will get some snow!!

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Re: PM Gear Lhasa Pow 186
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2009, 08:00:49 pm »
What are 10/20 rockers? Does that mean the amount of tip and tail rocker? A guy I know in Montana has the Armada JJ and I should get a spin on them sometime soon. I have fondled the Rossi S7, and they are pretty soft, but I woul still like to try them.

Maybe we will get lucky on your trip to MT in that I iwll be here and we will get some snow!!

a 10/20 Rocker is is a 10mm rise to 20cm back both tip and tail.

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Re: PM Gear Lhasa Pow 186
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2009, 09:34:18 am »
thanks for the review. I would love ot get on a pair of JJ Armada's. I am still waiting to see what comes out next year as far as any advance but from what I see, not much really. There will be a lot more partials like the gotama and others getting into the game. I am really happy with my quiver of Icelantics but I would like to get on the JJ's.

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Re: PM Gear Lhasa Pow 186
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 06:41:19 pm »
I have never skied a rocker, yet, but I own a pair of 174 Soft Bros which I really love.  PM Gear puts out some quality product.

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Re: PM Gear Lhasa Pow 186
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 10:14:37 am »
I skied some prototypes of these last year in SnowBasin when I was there with Splat. Although the conditions weren't completely conducive for the ski, they were real nice. Since then, i did get some (10/20) rockers for myself, would be interesting to do a comparision.

I thought you didn't care for those? Which did you test that you didn't like? Is the Lhasapows the same as last years just rebadged?

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Re: PM Gear Lhasa Pow 186
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2009, 09:27:52 pm »
Here is a brief addition to my review. I took these out in 3 feet of fresh at Squaw today. I view this as the real test of a great powder ski. The pacific dumps are huge and they are also much more wet and therefore somewhat harder to ski. I remain extremely impressed with these skis. They were a blast all day and they were easy to ski in the most difficult terrain at Squaw. Eveni soft bumps late in the day, they wre surprisinly nimble.

This remains my ski of choice for anything from 8" on up.