ski tuning

[Perry]

Gary,
Just as an aside, I have never notice that my OCD has really caused significant
problems, problems, problems, problems, problems, problems, problems, problems.


Crap!! 3 extra letters!!

[Gary]

Almost fell off my chair Perry....... !

and one more just incase it didn't appear I was happy enough? ? ? ? ? ? for luck!

G

[Ron]

must be a very inside joke?

[LivingProof]

ski what you like but a 90 mm ski ain't no pow board!?

Just for the record, and in keeping with my "it's the magician and not the wand" philosophy, borrowed from the instructional forum of Epic is a little You Tube video of some guy who won 3 golds in 1968. Love his rockered pow boards (not).

This makes skiing look like a walk in the park.

I think G will get by in Pow on whatever is underfoot!

Enjoy

[Gary]

Morning gang...
ROn....the Joke was the reference to being OCD..

Hey Mike...you picked the one skier that is Clendenin's poster boy for skiing....good get. John talks about aspiring to look like Kily when skiing.

I loved that video....great stance,....outanding use of the inside free foot.....watching how smooth and fluid he is....just awesome! I know there's a place for the new gear certainly making it easier and more fun for many skiers. But watching that champion.....he certainly is a "magician". Thanks for sharring that!

Best,
Gary

[Ron]

Great video, yup its the skills that count in the end no doubt. In the end, regardless of the fit of the boots, tune on the skis- it's really all on you. Take those skills and put them with the equipment you like. but you should have fun more than anything else since that's why you are doing it.

[LivingProof]

It's no surprise that JCK is Johnny C's poster child for skiing style. The first time I saw the Killy video, the upright stance and pure centered body position reminded me of Clendenin's skiing in the video for his school. "Center" is one on the four Clendenin clue words and that aspect is sooo visible in their skiing. Both world champions on the snow, both just ride the ski so easily. There's a lot to be learned from just watching them. I love the Killy video.

What is JC's advice about staying centered? That's a devil we all dance with!

Damn, I need to ski.

[Ron]

don't all preach feet the feet under the hips? That seems to be a trait of all schools? All seem to have a slight variation with the end result the same, some folks do better with one or other method. .02

[jbotti]

Many people forget that for the two years that Killy raced on the World Cup, he was beyond dominant. In 1967 he won 12 of 17 races he entered, which is dominating in a way that no one has ever done. His triple croown at Grenoble was also astounding and will most likley never be done again. His 18 total victories plus 3 olympic victories (21 total) in those two years are right there with Stenmark (who in his best two years won 24 races). He retired after the 1968 seaosn to go pro and try and make some money. This was back when the rules for amateur competition were strict and WC athletes made nothing. Had he stuck around he might have rivaled Stenmark for total WC wins (86 total).

[LivingProof]

don't all preach feet the feet under the hips? That seems to be a trait of all schools? All seem to have a slight variation with the end result the same, some folks do better with one or other method. .02

Technique discussion in a tuning thread. What a long strange trip it's been!

Let me rephrase my question. But first, Clendenin always looks centered and he's built that into his skiing. Keeping your feet under the hips is the result of doing other actions, and, we mortals have to bring our feet back under the hips. Harb teaches the concept of active pulling back of the feet at the moment in a turn where your skis are flat, and, that way centering gets built in.

Does John teach a method for re-centering between the feather and the touch? Do you just delay touch until centered. I'm sure there is a lot of practice involved.

[Gary]

Mike, John teaches recenter on the uphill edge as the skis enter the fall line. Ron's on target. Skiing with your skis (feet) pulled under your hips, keeps your bodycenterd. The quickest place for you to make fore/aft adjustments as well as lateral.

John's a big advocate of skiing centered, arms to the side ready for each pole plant, smooth transition, big on using all 4 edges. John likes that tall look in skiing. Give the skier lots of abilty to extend and compress when and where necessary.

Mike, we'll have loads of fun in Jackson adding some CSM to your ski quivver! Wish you could make the Jan 13-14th clinic...

Best,
G

[Rimsey]

For UK people - Jons Ski tuning is very good

[Perry]

Ok, today I may take on a P-Tex repair that is fairly deep but not huge.  I have the candles, not an iron.  I have repaired the area under my foot and next to the edge before and it keeps coming out.  Besides cleaning that part of the base, with base cleaner 1st and not dripping but letting the ptex run into the defect, are there any other tricks I need to employ before I "light it up"?

[Ron]

you need to clean out the gouge. Try to make it as clean as possible, if it's not too deep, there's  good chance it won't stick. If its not really deep, it's not going to affect the ski so unless you just want to practice, don't worry about it. 

[Perry]

It now goes to the "core" but is small.  I will practice and let you know how it works out.